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<title>LNOTES-L Status</title>
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<item><title>The New Home of LNOTES-L</title><link>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-737L65</link><description><![CDATA[ The old host of the LNOTES-L mailing list was decomissioned by its owner in April 2007.  A new list, in the form of a Yahoo Group, has been set up.  You can find it here.  A Yahoo Group offers both email access and interactive web access to its archive.  ...]]></description><dc:subject>Yahoo Group</dc:subject><dc:creator>Richard Schwartz</dc:creator><comments>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-737L65</comments><guid isPermaLink="true">http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-737L65</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>The old host of the LNOTES-L mailing list was decomissioned by its owner in April 2007.  A new list, in the form of a Yahoo Group, has been set up.  You can find it <a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/lnotes-l-new/">here</a>.  A Yahoo Group offers both email access and interactive web access to its archive.  There is some advertising, unfortunately, but in exchange for greater reliability and better functionality it seems to be a reasonably fair trade.</p>]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 11:28:07 -0400</pubDate><slash:comments>2</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/CommentsRSS?Open&amp;id=CA742E458273F8FE852572DB0055B446</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/PostComment?RunAgent&amp;id=CA742E458273F8FE852572DB0055B446</wfw:comment></item><item><title>Do We Need To Replace LNOTES-L?</title><link>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-72MS2W</link><description><![CDATA[ 
LNOTES-L has had a long life. &nbsp;I'm
not sure exactly how long, but I'm pretty certain it's more than 12 years.
&nbsp;It goes back to before there were web forums. &nbsp;It goes back
to before there was a set of Usenet groups under the ...]]></description><dc:subject>None</dc:subject><dc:creator>Richard Schwartz</dc:creator><comments>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-72MS2W</comments><guid isPermaLink="true">http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-72MS2W</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[ 
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">LNOTES-L has had a long life. &nbsp;I'm
not sure exactly how long, but I'm pretty certain it's more than 12 years.
&nbsp;It goes back to before there were web forums. &nbsp;It goes back
to before there was a set of Usenet groups under the comp.groupware.lotus-notes
hierarchy<b>.</b></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The </font><a href="http://www-10.lotus.com/ldd/nd6forum.nsf"><font size=2 color=blue face="sans-serif">forum</font></a><font size=2 face="sans-serif">
on LDD (formerly Notes.Net) has been available for a long time, and I think
it is more active now than LNOTES-L was at its peak. &nbsp;Some people
still really like mailing lists, though. &nbsp;They're right there in your
mail file, so you can refer to them when you're off-line. &nbsp;But LDD
offers Notes replication access to the forum, too, so you <i>can</i> take
it off-line, too. &nbsp;It's not the prettiest UI in the world, but it
works and a lot of people to use it. &nbsp;I don't know if its more or
less than the number who have been using LNOTES-L.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">And besides the forum, there are now
blogs. &nbsp;Lots of blogs. &nbsp;I haven't counted in a while, and it's
hard to say how many are truly active, but I think there are more than
100 active blogs covering issues in the Notes community. &nbsp;No, they're
not suitable for Q&amp;A, unless of course you are the blogger and you
have built up a substantial readership. &nbsp;But they're there, and a
lot of questions are <i>already</i> &nbsp;answered in blog posts, so a
strategic google or two stands a chance of answering your question. &nbsp;</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Then again, people have still been posting
to LNOTES-L. &nbsp;Not as often as before, but it's still been reasonably
active. &nbsp;Does this mean that people have not been Googling and finding
answers elsewhere. &nbsp;Or does it mean that they <i>have</i> been Googling
and <i>still</i> not finding answers. &nbsp;I'd bet its a mix of both.
&nbsp;Sometimes, you don't even know what the right words are for your
search, and sometimes the answer just isn't out there to be found.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">So, here's the question: do we still
need LNOTES-L? &nbsp;Or has it run its course?</font>
]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:30:11 -0400</pubDate><slash:comments>9</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/CommentsRSS?Open&amp;id=3371BCC78812407A852572C90071634B</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/PostComment?RunAgent&amp;id=3371BCC78812407A852572C90071634B</wfw:comment></item><item><title>IMPORTANT: List is Down.  Maybe permanently, maybe not.</title><link>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-72MLDK</link><description><![CDATA[ 
I am contacting the list ...]]></description><dc:subject>None</dc:subject><dc:creator>Richard Schwartz</dc:creator><comments>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-72MLDK</comments><guid isPermaLink="true">http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-72MLDK</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[ 
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I am contacting the list owner.</font><font size=3>
</font>
]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:40:00 -0400</pubDate><slash:comments>4</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/CommentsRSS?Open&amp;id=A186257587C1D97B852572C90056D1B1</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/PostComment?RunAgent&amp;id=A186257587C1D97B852572C90056D1B1</wfw:comment></item><item><title>Back Up Now</title><link>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6T9Q8F</link><description><![CDATA[ 
As of 3 PM &nbsp;on 9/2, the list appears
to be back ...]]></description><dc:subject>None</dc:subject><dc:creator>Richard Schwartz</dc:creator><comments>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6T9Q8F</comments><guid isPermaLink="true">http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6T9Q8F</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[ 
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">As of 3 PM &nbsp;on 9/2, the list appears
to be back up.</font>
]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Sat, 2 Sep 2006 14:56:41 -0400</pubDate><slash:comments></slash:comments><wfw:commentRss> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/CommentsRSS?Open&amp;id=3A4BB61612C3B42D852571DD00689024</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/PostComment?RunAgent&amp;id=3A4BB61612C3B42D852571DD00689024</wfw:comment></item><item><title>List Appears To Be Down</title><link>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6T9HTS</link><description><![CDATA[ 
No messages have been received as of
late afternoon (US Eastern Time) on 31 August. &nbsp; Reports from several
people indicate that messages sent to the list have not been delivered.
&nbsp;The list owner has been ...]]></description><dc:subject>None</dc:subject><dc:creator>Richard Schwartz</dc:creator><comments>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6T9HTS</comments><guid isPermaLink="true">http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6T9HTS</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[ 
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">No messages have been received as of
late afternoon (US Eastern Time) on 31 August. &nbsp; Reports from several
people indicate that messages sent to the list have not been delivered.
&nbsp;The list owner has been contacted.</font>
]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Sat, 2 Sep 2006 09:29:10 -0400</pubDate><slash:comments></slash:comments><wfw:commentRss> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/CommentsRSS?Open&amp;id=B5478BD37DC46E66852571DD004A93C3</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/PostComment?RunAgent&amp;id=B5478BD37DC46E66852571DD004A93C3</wfw:comment></item><item><title>The list appears to be down</title><link>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6JSNHU</link><description><![CDATA[ 
I am contacting the operator, and will
post an update as soon as I hear ...]]></description><dc:subject>Outages</dc:subject><dc:creator>Richard Schwartz</dc:creator><comments>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6JSNHU</comments><guid isPermaLink="true">http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6JSNHU</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[ 
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I am contacting the operator, and will
post an update as soon as I hear something.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-rich</font>
]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:29:17 -0400</pubDate><slash:comments>1</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/CommentsRSS?Open&amp;id=8E1C7E03D559DA44852570CE0060551B</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/PostComment?RunAgent&amp;id=8E1C7E03D559DA44852570CE0060551B</wfw:comment></item><item><title>The List&amp;apos;s Server Is No Longer Blacklisted</title><link>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6C5FJ8</link><description><![CDATA[ See the Spamhaus lookup ...]]></description><dc:subject>None</dc:subject><dc:creator>Richard Schwartz</dc:creator><comments>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6C5FJ8</comments><guid isPermaLink="true">http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6C5FJ8</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>See the <a href='http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=206.67.5.170'>Spamhaus lookup page</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Fri, 6 May 2005 07:31:30 -0400</pubDate><slash:comments></slash:comments><wfw:commentRss> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/CommentsRSS?Open&amp;id=7D3ABF233F13D65885256FF9003F2421</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment> http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/PostComment?RunAgent&amp;id=7D3ABF233F13D65885256FF9003F2421</wfw:comment></item><item><title>Exempting LNOTES-L From Blacklisting on Domino 6</title><link>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6C4KSM</link><description><![CDATA[ As I just reported a few minutes ago, the ozzie.notes.net server is blacklisted by spamhaus.  If you are using spamhaus's "SBL" list in your server's SMTP Inbound Controls configuration (as shown to the left), you won't be receiving LNOTES-L messages.  There ...]]></description><dc:subject>None</dc:subject><dc:creator>Richard Schwartz</dc:creator><comments>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6C4KSM</comments><guid isPermaLink="true">http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6C4KSM</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>As I just reported a few minutes ago, the <a href='d6plinks/RSCZ-6C4K4M'>ozzie.notes.net server is blacklisted by spamhaus</a>.  If you are using spamhaus's "SBL" list in your server's SMTP Inbound Controls configuration (as shown to the left), you won't be receiving LNOTES-L messages.  There is a way around this, but it requires a hack.  If you're not up for using a total hack, you can change your server's configuration to log and tag messages instead of rejecting them on a blacklist hit, but then you'll have to run an agent to quarantine the messages after delivery to mail files.  I actually do run with the log and tag configuration, but the hack removes the need for an agent -- and it would work even if I were rejecting the messages.  The remainder of this post describes how you can do the same thing.</p>
<br>
<p>WARNING:  None of what follows is supported by anyone.  Modifying the design of the Domino Directory is something that you should only do with your eyes wide open to the consequences, so let me spell them out right here and now:  creating rules using the hack that I am about to tell you about runs the risk that those rules will be invalid on Domino 7 or greater.  It runs some risk of crashing the admin client or the server in Domino 7.  If you do this, be absolutely sure to remove all rules that you have created before doing a server upgrade.  Back them up, look for an updated version of the hacked code or re-do the hack yourself, and then restore or re-create the rules.  Whether you can restore or you will need to re-create the rules will depend on what, if any, changes IBM has made in the rules functionality that might conflict with the way the hack was programmed.</p>
<br>
<p>Now that we've got that all out of the way, here's what you need to know:</p>
<br>
<p>The hack to the server rules is based on work done by Daniel Koffler to integrate Spam Assassin with Domino.  You don't have to use Spam Assassin to take advantage of the technique, however, because Chris Linfoot took Daniel's technique and extended it in some very interesting ways.  Please start by reading <a href='http://www.dominopower.com/issues/issue200312/00001158001.html' target=_new>Daniel's article</a>, however, because Chris doesn't explain the code, and you need to understand how it works in order to be fully aware of what you are doing to your server.</p>
<br>
<p>Now, read this article that Chris published in his blog, in which he <a href='http://chris-linfoot.net/plinks/CWLT-5U9FJE' target=_new>explains how Daniel's article inspired him to develop his own hacked rule to detect bogus HELO messages</a> in the SMTP conversation.   The result of that post was that rules hacks for checking the HELO message, for checking the $DNSBLSite tag, and for checking some of the other headers for indicators that are often found in spam messages.  Next, go here to <a href='http://chris-linfoot.net/plinks/CWLT-6BTCDM' target=_new>download a template and read the instructions for modifying the design of your Domino Direcftory</a>.  Follow the instructions to take the design elements from the downloaded template and use them to replace the versions that are in your server's names.nsf design.</p>
<br>
<p>
Now, what you need to do is change your Domino server's configuration to use the log and tag option for DNS Blacklists (as shown above), and then create a rule that looks like this:</p>
<br>
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<br>
<p>
(You can skip the bit about exempting yahoo.com or yahoogroups.com.  That's in my current configuration to exempt a specific set of messages from a mailing list -- but it will only be there until I find a better way for those particular messages.)
</p>
<br>
<p>
What you are doing is checking the $DNSBLSite field to see if it is not blank.  Just select DNS Blacklist in the first control, "Is Not" in the second, leave the third one blank, and click "Add".  It looks funny, but it works. Then click on the "Exception" radio button, select "SourceIP" in the first control, "Is" in the second control, enter "206.67.5.170" in the third field, and click "Add" again.  Down in the Actions portion of the rule dialog, I specify "Move to database" and I have the rule put all the blacklisted messages into a database that is based on a slightly modified version of the MAIL.BOX template, where I have modified the view to allow me to easily inspect many of the header suspect fields.  You can specify "Don't accept message" if you want.  I'm collecting the messages not so much out of a fear of false positives as out of an interest in easily measuring the results of blacklist checking -- but obviously this morning's discovery of LNOTES-L messages in the quarantine database makes me glad that I'm not rejecting the messages, as it probably would have taken a day or two for me to notice what I was missing.
</p>
<br>
<p>
After you've implemeted the hacked (or "enhanced" as Chris likes to say) rules, you will need to issue a "set rules" command on the server console to put them into effect. 
</p>
<br>
<p>Finally, you may want to consider checking out the article where <a href='http://chris-linfoot.net/plinks/CWLT-6BUHHP' target=_new>Chris lists the rules that he uses himself</a> in his highly successful anti-spam campaign.   As long as you're hacking rules, you might as well learn from his experience and implement some very effecfive anti-spam controls.  I've been using all of Chris' techiques for a while now.  I'll be writing a report in <a href='http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/poweroftheschwartz.nsf'>my own blog</a> in a few weeks, after I've had them running long enough to have some meaningful statistics to analyze.</p>
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As of this morning, sbl.spamhaus.org is listing the IP address of the server that hosts LNOTES-L.  Apparently, the server sits on the same /24 subnet as a known spammer, and Spamhaus has blocked the entire subnet.  If you have sbl.spamhaus.org listed in the ...]]></description><dc:subject>None</dc:subject><dc:creator>Richard Schwartz</dc:creator><comments>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6C4K4M</comments><guid isPermaLink="true">http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-6C4K4M</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[ <br><br>
<p>As of this morning, sbl.spamhaus.org is listing the IP address of the server that hosts LNOTES-L.  Apparently, the server sits on the same /24 subnet as a known spammer, and Spamhaus has blocked the entire subnet.  If you have sbl.spamhaus.org listed in the blacklist configuration for your mail client or server, you will not be receiving messages from the list.</p>
<br>
<p>The owner of the IP address has been notified.</p>
<br>
<p>If you are using Domino 6, there is a way to exempt a specific server's IP address from blacklisting.  It's a hack though, requiring a modification to the design of the Domino Directory.  I'll post the details shortly for anyone who is interested.  If you aren't willing to try the hack, or if you're not running Domino 6 of if the mail server and/or client you are using don't provide a way to exempt specific IPs from blacklisting, you may have to stop using sbl.spamhaus.org until the problem is resolved.  The IP, by the way, is 206.67.5.170.
</p>
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Please note: the maintainer of this site is not the manager of the LNOTES-L
mailing list. &nbsp;Neither is Ken Yee, who maintains the Notes
FAQ site, which is where I got
the information which this posting is based on. &nbsp;For information ...]]></description><dc:subject>None</dc:subject><dc:creator>Richard Schwartz</dc:creator><comments>http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-68PQAU</comments><guid isPermaLink="true">http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/plinks/RSCZ-68PQAU</guid><content:encoded><![CDATA[ 
<br><font size=2 face="Verdana"><br>
<br>
Please note: the maintainer of this site is not the manager of the LNOTES-L
mailing list. &nbsp;Neither is Ken Yee, who maintains the </font><a href=http://www.keysolutions.com/NotesFAQ/><font size=2 color=blue face="Verdana"><u>Notes
FAQ</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Verdana"> site, which is where I got
the information which this posting is based on. &nbsp;For information about
the current status of the LNOTES-L list, you can generally check the </font><a href="http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf"><font size=2 color=blue face="Verdana"><u>home
page of this web log</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Verdana">. &nbsp;If
you haven't seen it yet, please read this </font><a href="http://smokey.rhs.com/web/blog/LNOTES-Lstatus.nsf/d6plinks/RSCZ-68PM2W"><font size=2 color=blue face="Verdana"><u>introductory
message</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Verdana"> about the purpose of
this web log. <br>
<br>
The LNotes-L mailing list is Listserver-based email list for Notes programmers
and administrators. It has been in operation since at least 1993.</font><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 face="Verdana"><b><br>
<br>
Contacting the Administrator</b><br>
The administrator is Joe Ashkar ( </font><a href="mailto:lnotes-l@ashcom.net"><font size=2 color=blue face="Verdana"><u>lnotes-l@ashcom.net</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Verdana">).
You can email him w/ any administration problems. <b><br>
<br>
Subscribing</b><br>
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